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Draco/Whore of Babylon runs the Beast gauntlet (Fate/Grand Order) SPOILERS!

The recent Beast VI/S from Fate/Grand Order Mobile is pitted to fight against the other Beasts one by one. 1) Beast II Tiamat 2) Beast III/R Heaven’s Hole/Kiara Sessyoin 3) Beast III/L Kama/Mara 4) Beast IV:L Tamamo Vitch Koyanskaya 5) Beast VII U-Olga Marie 6) Beast I Goetia Rules: -All the…

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Debates Draco/Whore of Babylon runs the Beast gauntlet (Fate/Grand Order) Thread starter GaRbS Start date Apr 21, 2022 SPOILERS!  1 2 Next 1 of 2 Go to page Go Next Last GaRbS Those who are truly strong, need no techniques! Apr 21, 2022 #1 The recent Beast VI/S from Fate/Grand Order Mobile is pitted to fight against the other Beasts one by one. 1) Beast II Tiamat 2) Beast III/R Heaven's Hole/Kiara Sessyoin 3) Beast III/L Kama/Mara 4) Beast IV:L Tamamo Vitch Koyanskaya 5) Beast VII U-Olga Marie 6) Beast I Goetia Rules: -All the Beasts are at the peak of their power. -Tiamat is fought in the Babylonia Singularity. -Kiara is fought in SE.RA.PH. -Kama is fought in her Ooku. -Goetia is fought in the Time Temple. The purpose of the thread is to determine which one she loses or wins against. So it doesn't matter if she stops at one opponent, she keeps going to the next one.   Last edited: Apr 21, 2022 1 Lord of The Black Wing Apr 21, 2022 #2 Do we even know what abilities she has aside from flood attack?   Morles I drink and I know things... Apr 21, 2022 #3 I mean... by hype she'd be the strongest Beast yet... but like that's it. To my knowledge we bearly have any feats for her   Nachtprophet Apr 21, 2022 #4 Since Arcade seems to be more focused on gameplay with less story and narration than mobile, we will probably have to wait for a data book entry before Draco can be discussed in depth. From the summaries I've seen she appears to be kinda the opposite of Tiamat, ridiculous stats but no defensive hax.   Shlugo Apr 21, 2022 #5 Yeah, the thing is, they say she's strong, but then Chaldea just beats her in straight battle, with none of the usual Beast weakening tricks required.   9 Blaze Apr 21, 2022 #6 Shlugo said: with none of the usual Beast weakening tricks required. Click to expand... Click to shrink... 4 grand equivalents, Excalibur, and Lord Camelot. Not much need for sabotage when your front line is packing. The issue is how much is left up to the player to fill in the gaps.   Last edited: Apr 21, 2022 2 GaRbS Those who are truly strong, need no techniques! Apr 21, 2022 #7 Blaze said: 4 grand equivalents Click to expand... Click to shrink... Merlin, Noah, King Hassan... who is the fourth?   2 Blaze Apr 21, 2022 #8 GaRbS said: Merlin, Noah, King Hassan... who is the fourth? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Typo. Just 3.   1 CrossingArcadia Apr 21, 2022 #9 Blaze said: 4 grand equivalents Click to expand... Click to shrink... GaRbS said: Merlin Click to expand... Click to shrink... Wasn't it said that Merlin basically did nothing to actually help and was even called out on it? Also, not technically a Grand there, just a Candidate. Either way, Draco has the strongest Spirit Origin out of all the Beasts, but like, she really doesn't seam to be that impressive outside that that. Like, I don't think its even possible for her to beat Tiamat as Tiamat is just the largest Brick to ever Brick in the Nasuverse. She is just not easy to deal with in any regard and Draco hasn't shown anything that implies she would be able to beat her to be best of my knowedge. Draco is also someone who embodies sins, so like, would probably be really susceptible to Kiara's stuff. Kama depends on if she can actually deal with Kama just pitching her to a random part of her universe and denying her stuff, as Kama can't really beat her in terms of head on power. Don't know enough about Koyanskaya as a Beast to really say. We have literally no idea what Beast VII can do outside of dropping black holes on things. Goetia can probably just one shot her with Ars Almadel Salomonis, as she got beaten up by a collection of Grands and Arthur which are nothing compared to that.   Last edited: Apr 21, 2022 9 Blaze Apr 21, 2022 #10 CrossingArcadia said: Wasn't it said that Merlin basically did nothing to actually help and was even called out on it? Also, not technically a Grand there, just a Candidate. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Merlin was fighting Draco from the start with King Hassan and Mashu. They had no effect on her, while she was playing around. It's Noah and Arthur's appearance that turns the tide. It's never said that Merlin wasn't participating nor was she called out on it. It's in the first chapter of the arc called Merlin out on not taking her grand title. Merlin here is just the same as the Babylonia endgame version. She's not in a grand container but it's irrelevant to her performance as someone comparable. Either way, Draco has the strongest Spirit Origin out of all the Beasts, but like, she really doesn't seam to be that impressive outside that that. Click to expand... Click to shrink... She casually drops a flood that spans the world in a few moments. That's the most easily accessible "nuke" of any beast short of Goetia. CrossingArcadia said: Draco is also someone who embodies sins, so like, would probably be really susceptible to Kiara's stuff. Kama depends on if she can actually deal with Kama just pitching her to a random part of her universe and denying her stuff, as Kama can't really beat her in terms of head on power. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Kiara's hax isn't instant and Draco has the range and power to crush her. If Kiara does get her ability working, that's her win. I can't speak for Kama. CrossingArcadia said: Don't know enough about Koyanskaya as a Beast to really say. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Koyanskaya's the weakest beast by a huge margin. Her specialties are against purely human targets to an unquantifiable degree. She has no immunity or hax and was bested by 4 (very) strong servants using strategy. The most dangerous thing about her is that she can collapse her reality marble and take Chaldea down with her. This is a trivial fight. CrossingArcadia said: We have literally no idea what Beast VII can do outside of dropping black holes on things. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Those black holes also have a 15 minute setup time as shown in Tunguska. Sodom can take this one until we know more since it's just a comparison of magic energy at this point. CrossingArcadia said: Goetia can probably just one shot her with Ars Almadel Salomonis, as she got beaten up by a collection of Grands and Arthur which are nothing compared to that. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yep.   Last edited: Apr 21, 2022 6 CrossingArcadia Apr 21, 2022 #11 Blaze said: Those black holes also have a 15 minute setup time as shown in Tunguska. Sodom can take this one until we know more since it's just a comparison of magic energy at this point. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I think you missed the point of "We only know the one thing she can do", which is, who the fuck knows if she can win cause we know next to nothing about the actual capabilities of the Alien God. We literally know of only one move. It would be like putting someone up against Goetia after London was released or something.   Last edited: Apr 21, 2022 1 Blaze Apr 21, 2022 #12 CrossingArcadia said: I think you missed the point of "We only know the one thing she can do", which is, who the fuck knows can win cause we know next to nothing about the actual capabilities of the Alien God. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The premise of the fight is to work with the information we have or there would be no point to having U-Olga here at all. For the sake of the thread? Don't think I've said anything unreasonable. Draco should win "until we know more".   Last edited: Apr 21, 2022 3 RenRen Fire Force Enthusiast Apr 21, 2022 #13 Shes featless in her new form that is supposed to be "First Planetary class" so im still not clear on wether or not Goetia can defeat her or not, (or wether she has ten crowns)   3 M Mugetsu002 Apr 21, 2022 #14 >Number of the Beast: C >The Personal Skill of Beast-VI was altered due to her becoming an Alter-Ego. The Number of the Beast, 666, engraved on herself. >Seven Crowns: C >Horns that symbolize the Beast of Revelations, the blasphemer, the destroyer of cities. >Aurea Poculum: C >The corrupted Grail incessantly boiling with human desires - for fortune, alcohol, gold, spouses, lovers... >Nega-Messiah: EX >Negates all blessings from faith. It also comes with an advantage trait against the Extra Class of the saviors, and a hidden ability to weaken their special Skills. >Babalon Domus Aurea (Ingurgitating Golden Theater) >Rank: A >Type: Anti-Army Noble Phantasm >Range: 1-30 >Max. Targets: 7 people >After locking the opponent inside the Golden Theater, she pulverizes the whole theater with them in it. Emperor Nero tried to invite the people to immerse them with entertainment, but Draco tries to lock the people to save them with despair. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Information from Draco's profile on Arcade, Her Nega Messiah, maybe could work on Goetia I guess. To know more we have to wait and hope for Arcade mats. The NP is pretty funny tho. Anti army Max Targets: 7 Like Wut   3 RenRen Fire Force Enthusiast Apr 21, 2022 #15 Mugetsu002 said: Information from Draco's profile on Arcade, Her Nega Messiah, maybe could work on Goetia I guess. To know more we have to wait and hope for Arcade mats. The NP is pretty funny tho. Anti army Max Targets: 7 Like Wut Click to expand... Click to shrink... Thanks for the info, (she doesnt have ten crowns then). As for nega messiah? not working on Goetia unless you think solomons body should be a savior class or goetia in Romans body/disguise. But mostly the former, but...goetia doesn't have the revelation skill which would be a faith-related skill from solomon. Edit: though hassan is gonna have a "hard" time fighting her.   Last edited by a moderator: Apr 21, 2022 1 Siriel CrW Moderator Apr 21, 2022 #16 Blaze said: She casually drops a flood that spans the world in a few moments. That's the most easily accessible "nuke" of any beast short of Goetia. Click to expand... Click to shrink... That can't really be called a nuke though. A tidal wave isn't going to kill Tiamat, or really anyone that has any business fighting a Beast.   9 Blaze Apr 21, 2022 #17 Siriel said: That can't really be called a nuke though. A tidal wave isn't going to kill Tiamat, or really anyone that has any business fighting a Beast. Click to expand... Click to shrink... That's me being lazy to find a proper definition, hence the quotations. It's nothing as convenient as a beam to nuke powerful/durable individuals with, but a damn near inescapable way to clear the board of comparatively lesser enemies that could potentially pose a threat by teaming up. Which is how arc bosses in FGO tend to be defeated anyway.   Last edited: Apr 21, 2022 1 S Silver Fang Apr 21, 2022 #18 So, how did they beat Draco?   1 Banjo21 Apr 21, 2022 #19 Silver Fang said: So, how did they beat Draco? Click to expand... Click to shrink... From what I've gathered they just beat her using the Grand's + Arthur (I mean he IS the Beast Hunter) Arcade doesn't have much in the way of story so Draco didn't get to show much aside from her better flood, she is pretty disappointing. Guess we will have to wait for a proper profile of her Beast form to know if she can beat the other Beast (Well Koyanchihuaha is weak as hell so she should be an easy fight).   4 Toryus The World Machine Apr 21, 2022 #20 do we know how strong Noah is? otherwise can't really judge her   Siriel CrW Moderator Apr 22, 2022 #21 Toryus said: do we know how strong Noah is? otherwise can't really judge her Click to expand... Click to shrink... Noah immediately says that he's not particularly strong in a fight when he shows up for the final battle.   5 Eos_Astraeus Apr 22, 2022 #22 Siriel said: Noah immediately says that he's not particularly strong in a fight when he shows up for the final battle. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Wasn't that due to getting jumped by draco when he first showed up in the singularity and only sticking around by hyjacking/borrowing nemos spirit origin so he's much weaker than normal anyway?   1 Siriel CrW Moderator Apr 22, 2022 #23 Eos_Astraeus said: Wasn't that due to getting jumped by draco when he first showed up in the singularity and only sticking around by hyjacking/borrowing nemos spirit origin so he's much weaker than normal anyway? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Whether it's an exception to his default or not doesn't really change how much he could contribute to the final fight.   J Jester2145 I was the Sun before it was cool Apr 22, 2022 #24 Silver Fang said: So, how did they beat Draco? Click to expand... Click to shrink... For what i read on twitter. They just use a Full Power Excaliblast   Blaze Apr 22, 2022 #25 Eos_Astraeus said: Wasn't that due to getting jumped by draco when he first showed up in the singularity and only sticking around by hyjacking/borrowing nemos spirit origin so he's much weaker than normal anyway? Click to expand... Click to shrink... That Noah died. He was resummoned as a grand so he should have full power here. I'm not seeing what the issue is regardless. Noah not being a conventional fighter doesn't take away from contributions, which Merlin alluded to him bringing. Noah is the designated grand to counter Draco/Sodom, meaning there is no other heroic spirit more appropriate for fighting her than him. We know, at least, that he directly counters her flood. King Hassan and Arthur just brought the firepower. Merlin and Mashu ought to be backrow support.   1 2 Next 1 of 2 Go to page Go Next Last You must log in or register to reply here. 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