Draco/Whore of Babylon runs the Beast gauntlet (Fate/Grand Order)

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GaRbS

Those who are truly strong, need no techniques!
The recent Beast VI/S from Fate/Grand Order Mobile is pitted to fight against the other Beasts one by one.

1) Beast II Tiamat
2) Beast III/R Heaven's Hole/Kiara Sessyoin
3) Beast III/L Kama/Mara
4) Beast IV:L Tamamo Vitch Koyanskaya
5) Beast VII U-Olga Marie
6) Beast I Goetia

Rules:
-All the Beasts are at the peak of their power.
-Tiamat is fought in the Babylonia Singularity.
-Kiara is fought in SE.RA.PH.
-Kama is fought in her Ooku.
-Goetia is fought in the Time Temple.

The purpose of the thread is to determine which one she loses or wins against. So it doesn't matter if she stops at one opponent, she keeps going to the next one.
 
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I mean... by hype she'd be the strongest Beast yet... but like that's it. To my knowledge we bearly have any feats for her
 
Since Arcade seems to be more focused on gameplay with less story and narration than mobile, we will probably have to wait for a data book entry before Draco can be discussed in depth.

From the summaries I've seen she appears to be kinda the opposite of Tiamat, ridiculous stats but no defensive hax.
 
Yeah, the thing is, they say she's strong, but then Chaldea just beats her in straight battle, with none of the usual Beast weakening tricks required.
 
Blaze said:
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GaRbS said:
Merlin
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Wasn't it said that Merlin basically did nothing to actually help and was even called out on it? Also, not technically a Grand there, just a Candidate.

Either way, Draco has the strongest Spirit Origin out of all the Beasts, but like, she really doesn't seam to be that impressive outside that that. Like, I don't think its even possible for her to beat Tiamat as Tiamat is just the largest Brick to ever Brick in the Nasuverse. She is just not easy to deal with in any regard and Draco hasn't shown anything that implies she would be able to beat her to be best of my knowedge.

Draco is also someone who embodies sins, so like, would probably be really susceptible to Kiara's stuff. Kama depends on if she can actually deal with Kama just pitching her to a random part of her universe and denying her stuff, as Kama can't really beat her in terms of head on power.

Don't know enough about Koyanskaya as a Beast to really say.

We have literally no idea what Beast VII can do outside of dropping black holes on things.

Goetia can probably just one shot her with Ars Almadel Salomonis, as she got beaten up by a collection of Grands and Arthur which are nothing compared to that.
 
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CrossingArcadia said:
Wasn't it said that Merlin basically did nothing to actually help and was even called out on it? Also, not technically a Grand there, just a Candidate.
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Merlin was fighting Draco from the start with King Hassan and Mashu. They had no effect on her, while she was playing around. It's Noah and Arthur's appearance that turns the tide.

It's never said that Merlin wasn't participating nor was she called out on it. It's in the first chapter of the arc called Merlin out on not taking her grand title. Merlin here is just the same as the Babylonia endgame version. She's not in a grand container but it's irrelevant to her performance as someone comparable.

Either way, Draco has the strongest Spirit Origin out of all the Beasts, but like, she really doesn't seam to be that impressive outside that that.
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She casually drops a flood that spans the world in a few moments.
That's the most easily accessible "nuke" of any beast short of Goetia.

CrossingArcadia said:
Draco is also someone who embodies sins, so like, would probably be really susceptible to Kiara's stuff. Kama depends on if she can actually deal with Kama just pitching her to a random part of her universe and denying her stuff, as Kama can't really beat her in terms of head on power.
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Kiara's hax isn't instant and Draco has the range and power to crush her. If Kiara does get her ability working, that's her win.
I can't speak for Kama.

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Don't know enough about Koyanskaya as a Beast to really say.
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Koyanskaya's the weakest beast by a huge margin. Her specialties are against purely human targets to an unquantifiable degree. She has no immunity or hax and was bested by 4 (very) strong servants using strategy. The most dangerous thing about her is that she can collapse her reality marble and take Chaldea down with her. This is a trivial fight.

CrossingArcadia said:
We have literally no idea what Beast VII can do outside of dropping black holes on things.
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Those black holes also have a 15 minute setup time as shown in Tunguska.
Sodom can take this one until we know more since it's just a comparison of magic energy at this point.

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Goetia can probably just one shot her with Ars Almadel Salomonis, as she got beaten up by a collection of Grands and Arthur which are nothing compared to that.
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Yep.
 
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Blaze said:
Those black holes also have a 15 minute setup time as shown in Tunguska.
Sodom can take this one until we know more since it's just a comparison of magic energy at this point.
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I think you missed the point of "We only know the one thing she can do", which is, who the fuck knows if she can win cause we know next to nothing about the actual capabilities of the Alien God.

We literally know of only one move. It would be like putting someone up against Goetia after London was released or something.
 
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CrossingArcadia said:
I think you missed the point of "We only know the one thing she can do", which is, who the fuck knows can win cause we know next to nothing about the actual capabilities of the Alien God.
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The premise of the fight is to work with the information we have or there would be no point to having U-Olga here at all. For the sake of the thread? Don't think I've said anything unreasonable. Draco should win "until we know more".
 
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Shes featless in her new form that is supposed to be "First Planetary class" so im still not clear on wether or not Goetia can defeat her or not, (or wether she has ten crowns)
 

Information from Draco's profile on Arcade,

Her Nega Messiah, maybe could work on Goetia I guess. To know more we have to wait and hope for Arcade mats.
The NP is pretty funny tho.
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Mugetsu002 said:
Information from Draco's profile on Arcade,

Her Nega Messiah, maybe could work on Goetia I guess. To know more we have to wait and hope for Arcade mats.
The NP is pretty funny tho.
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Thanks for the info, (she doesnt have ten crowns then).

As for nega messiah? not working on Goetia unless you think solomons body should be a savior class or goetia in Romans body/disguise.

But mostly the former, but...goetia doesn't have the revelation skill which would be a faith-related skill from solomon.

Edit: though hassan is gonna have a "hard" time fighting her.
 
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Siriel said:
That can't really be called a nuke though.

A tidal wave isn't going to kill Tiamat, or really anyone that has any business fighting a Beast.
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That's me being lazy to find a proper definition, hence the quotations. It's nothing as convenient as a beam to nuke powerful/durable individuals with, but a damn near inescapable way to clear the board of comparatively lesser enemies that could potentially pose a threat by teaming up. Which is how arc bosses in FGO tend to be defeated anyway.
 
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Silver Fang said:
So, how did they beat Draco?
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From what I've gathered they just beat her using the Grand's + Arthur (I mean he IS the Beast Hunter)

Arcade doesn't have much in the way of story so Draco didn't get to show much aside from her better flood, she is pretty disappointing.

Guess we will have to wait for a proper profile of her Beast form to know if she can beat the other Beast (Well Koyanchihuaha is weak as hell so she should be an easy fight).
 
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Wasn't that due to getting jumped by draco when he first showed up in the singularity and only sticking around by hyjacking/borrowing nemos spirit origin so he's much weaker than normal anyway?
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Whether it's an exception to his default or not doesn't really change how much he could contribute to the final fight.
 
Eos_Astraeus said:
Wasn't that due to getting jumped by draco when he first showed up in the singularity and only sticking around by hyjacking/borrowing nemos spirit origin so he's much weaker than normal anyway?
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That Noah died. He was resummoned as a grand so he should have full power here. I'm not seeing what the issue is regardless. Noah not being a conventional fighter doesn't take away from contributions, which Merlin alluded to him bringing. Noah is the designated grand to counter Draco/Sodom, meaning there is no other heroic spirit more appropriate for fighting her than him. We know, at least, that he directly counters her flood. King Hassan and Arthur just brought the firepower. Merlin and Mashu ought to be backrow support.
 
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