Sounds somewhat like California and Mexico. When Elon Musk was talking about going to Mars their were people saying they would go up there to Mars and do their thing by ‘terraforming’ the planet. Why can’t they terraform the deserts and other non productive lands here? Realize this question is...
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Prev 1 … Go to page Go 6 7 8 9 Next First Prev 8 of 9 Go to page Go Next Last P persistent Well-known member Nov 22, 2022 #141 Sep 11, 2022 2,303 577 113 70 Chicago Nov 22, 2022 #141 Sounds somewhat like California and Mexico. When Elon Musk was talking about going to Mars their were people saying they would go up there to Mars and do their thing by 'terraforming' the planet. Why can't they terraform the deserts and other non productive lands here? Realize this question is rhetorical. Mongolia is not real high latitude of midnight sun. It is a high cold plateau. Not sure of elevation but that is part of cold weather up there. Pakistani's probably have lots of cold spots too. Pakistan had major flooding recently. Another big country with cold weather is Kazakhstan. And Canada is very big. Not much chance of people migrating to Canada but Greenland maybe. MSN aggregator on my browser showed about Muslims, Jehovah Witnesses and others moving to Nunavut, Canada. Almost midnite sun region? Lanolin Well-known member Nov 22, 2022 #142 Dec 15, 2018 19,489 6,337 113 Nov 22, 2022 #142 Russia is not Mongolia, you seem to confuse the two. The only reason Russia is so huge is because most of the land is too cold to live on. Big landmass does not always equal super power..and there is the tyranny of distance. You try governing a land that has eight different time zones. The Mongolians used to have a huge empire because most of their homeland is tree less plain/plateau and they could see for miles and ride across it in horseback. Also they do not have fixed settlements. Study a bit more geography and you will see why countries are the way they are. Israel sits within the 'fertile crescent' the original cradle of civilisation and where Eden supposedly was between four rivers. UK people always go on about 'climate change' because that is their thing - to complain about the weather. Lanolin Well-known member Nov 22, 2022 #143 Dec 15, 2018 19,489 6,337 113 Nov 22, 2022 #143 the Romans were successful in building their empire because they pretty much built roads everywhere then rushed down with their chariots. The British are a naval power and always built ships and created harbours to trade. Now we live in an age of jet planes where every nation needs an international airport to participate in the global economy. if we cant afford to fly, people still need to move around, thats why the US was able to be so successful with the invention of the motor car. But now people are super mobile, they are choking in their own dust, and wasteland that the motor car creates. Lanolin Well-known member Nov 22, 2022 #144 Dec 15, 2018 19,489 6,337 113 Nov 22, 2022 #144 The US and Canada "white' govt did a horrible thing to native americans by trying to remove them from the land and sending them to desolate reservations where they could not grow food or hunt and fish seasonally. Then keeping the most productive, arable land to themselves and carving it up so that you had to own a piece. But that is what they did to Africa as well. 1 1 1 Show all ZNP Well-known member Nov 22, 2022 #145 Sep 14, 2020 18,007 3,253 113 Nov 22, 2022 #145 Lanolin said: The US and Canada "white' govt did a horrible thing to native americans by trying to remove them from the land and sending them to desolate reservations where they could not grow food or hunt and fish seasonally. Then keeping the most productive, arable land to themselves and carving it up so that you had to own a piece. But that is what they did to Africa as well. Click to expand... What about Australia, I would think the aborigines would really take issue with you leaving them off the list. What about the Maori, I would think they would really take issue with New Zealand being off this list. ‘The gates of hell opened’: after decades, Māori survivors of state abuse are finally heard Māori children faced not just the physical abuse, but the trauma of being cut off from their culture, New Zealand royal commission hears When Tupua Urlich – the first person to take the stand at a landmark Māori hearing on abuse in state care – is asked to talk about his upbringing, he puts his heads to his clasped hands and says he needs to take a minute. “This is an emotional thing to go through,” he says. “I don’t mind people seeing this because this is what we go through every day of our lives.” Urlich, of Croatian and Ngāti Kahungunu ki Heretaunga descent, was five when he was separated from his mother and seven siblings, and sent to live with a non-whānau [non-family] caregiver chosen by the state. “That’s when the gates of hell opened up,” he says. “I can tell you, I was far safer in those first five years of my life,” he tells the hearing. Over the next two years, in the early 2000s, he told the commission he was brutally beaten nearly every day. “I was a child at the mercy of a monster,” he says. “Beyond physical abuse, he was cruel. How anyone could deem him safe to take care of me I don’t understand.” After one beating, Urlich says his caregiver swung open the door to his room where he lay bleeding and said: “Oh yeah, your dad’s dead by the way”, then slammed the door closed. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ri-survivors-of-state-abuse-are-finally-heard 1 Show all P persistent Well-known member Nov 22, 2022 #146 Sep 11, 2022 2,303 577 113 70 Chicago Nov 22, 2022 #146 Lanolin said: But that is what they did to Africa as well. Click to expand... This is 1950's US music while I get my geography books on Rusgolia and mongosia you will have something to enjoy. P persistent Well-known member Nov 22, 2022 #147 Sep 11, 2022 2,303 577 113 70 Chicago Nov 22, 2022 #147 Lanolin said: Study a bit more geography and you will see why countries are the way they are. Israel sits within the 'fertile crescent' the original cradle of civilisation and where Eden supposedly was between four rivers. Click to expand... Negev desert may be in Israel. Jordan possibly east of Israel may also have some desert land and then possibly Syria to the NE and Lebanon to the north has a nice flag with Cedar tree then go southwest and Egypt may have some desert land but a big river there lets 100 million people survive oh yea Saudi Arabia is maybe somewhere in that region too and possibly Iraq & Iran. From my previous post which you passed by. Sounds somewhat like California and Mexico. When Elon Musk was talking about going to Mars their were people saying they would go up there to Mars and do their thing by 'terraforming' the planet. Why can't they terraform the deserts and other non productive lands here? Realize this question is rhetorical. P persistent Well-known member Nov 22, 2022 #148 Sep 11, 2022 2,303 577 113 70 Chicago Nov 22, 2022 #148 Lanolin said: The US and Canada "white' govt did a horrible thing to native americans by trying to remove them from the land and sending them to desolate reservations where they could not grow food or hunt and fish seasonally. Then keeping the most productive, arable land to themselves and carving it up so that you had to own a piece. But that is what they did to Africa as well. Click to expand... Gahé Dzíł / Mountain Spirits Crisosto Apache always for my familyCircling around flames and dancing with the blazes Encumbering sparks take flight into the night sky, A swirling twinkle resembling a star crown Moving into empty canopies resembling ghosts A threshold colossal structure with rusty bells shakes the sound of fire sings lingering beyond the flames sent across the mountain and valleys These spirits come from the mountains and move towards the south, between the sacred narrow canyons, The Sierra Madre Canyon walls sing in their echoes A medicine reveals a stick and brings the wall down For the Ndé—the people who wandered into night Ascending towards the ending sky and onto the lost land Losing their tongues and eyes they consume the mountain Air and waters trying to heal all their lungs that bellowed Outward against the slow breezes and heavy breaths A hundred years the spirits protected them from the sixteenth calvary who then believed, in all their hearts, a good Injun was a dead Injun. Even then the spirits protected the people for another twenty-seven years until they reached —their forced destination A place where cutting their hair died as the spirits watched The people searched the underground catacombs of St. Augustine While hearing the waves crash against the stone walls Outside the thick walls, the people were exposed To yellow fever and malaria, they died and died —some survived After thirty more years the people returned to their homeland closer to the Skeleton Canyons where an epic scribed on the mountain walls called back their ancestors At night the drumming echoed like the murmur inside Their bodies hearing the loud thumps come and go In 1986 the people returned to their original place —entering the ancient canyons —honoring those killed —remembering the mountains At night the sparks fly high as the people hear those rusty bells and hollow songs —they feel the drums and footsteps reverberate Inside their veins every time, they look to the mountains P persistent Well-known member Nov 22, 2022 #149 Sep 11, 2022 2,303 577 113 70 Chicago Nov 22, 2022 #149 The Independent FollowView Profile World’s deepest hole digger could unlock enough geothermal energy to power the world Story by Anthony Cuthbertson • 3h ago Amachine capable of digging the world’s deepest hole could potentially unlock enough renewable energy to power the entire planet, according to its creators. US-based Quaise Energy is developing a drilling rig that it hopes will reach 16km (10 miles) beneath the Earth’s surface in order to tap “inexhaustible clean energy” from geothermal heat in the crust. “The total energy content of the heat stored underground exceeds our annual energy demand as a planet by a factor of a billion,” Matt Houde, co-founder of Quaise Energy, said at TedX Boston last week. “Tapping into a fraction of that is more than enough to meet our energy needs for the foreseeable future.” The current record for the world’s deepest hole is the Kola borehole in the Arctic Circle, which measures 12.2km deep. It took the USSR more than two decades to drill but was abandoned following the collapse of the Soviet Union. The difficulties of drilling at those depths have meant tapping deep geothermal energy at scale has so far proved impossible. After boring through softer rock closer to the surface, Quaise Energy replaces traditional drill bits with milimetre wave energy that melts and vaporizes the harder rocks it encounters. The technique was developed by researchers at MIT 15 years ago, and is finally ready to be taken out of the lab. Artist’s rendition of the the Quaise drilling rig (Hector Vargas, Quaise Energy)© Provided by The Independent Several obstacles still remain before record depths can be reached, notably the challenge of removing the ash from the borehole once the rock has been vaporized. “Our current plan is to drill the first holes in the field in the next few years,” said Houde. “And while we continue to advance the technology to drill deeper, we will also explore our first commercial geothermal projects in shallower settings.” If successful Quaise Energy claims that any country on Earth could potentially become energy independent. The firm has already raised more than $63 million in an effort to commercialise the technology. Attachments 1669143993755.png 68 bytes Views: 1 P persistent Well-known member Nov 23, 2022 #150 Sep 11, 2022 2,303 577 113 70 Chicago Nov 23, 2022 #150 iamsoandso said: Ive eaten some really bad tasting produce before but as for GMO there isn't actually a GMO seed yet(their working on a purple tomato now though).. Click to expand... There once was a farmer from Leeds, Who swallowed a packet of seeds. It soon came to pass, He was covered with grass, But has all the tomatoes he needs. 1 Show all Magenta Senior Member Dec 1, 2022 #151 Jul 3, 2015 45,697 19,746 113 Dec 1, 2022 #151 persistent said: There once was a farmer from Leeds, Who swallowed a packet of seeds. It soon came to pass, He was covered with grass, But has all the tomatoes he needs. Click to expand... Reminds me of "The Lonesome Death of Jordy Verrill" From Stephen King's "The Creep Show" (Stephen King played Jordy Verrill in this segment of the anthology's movie, which was also his screenwriting debut). My favorite segment was called "The Crate," with Hal Holbrook, Fritz Weaver, and Adrienne Barbeau. The one with Leslie Nielsen was pretty good, too 1 Show all I Inquisitor Well-known member Dec 1, 2022 #152 Mar 17, 2022 980 289 63 Dec 1, 2022 #152 SanderB said: It is true that all wars start with economic issues, so in order to be patriotic, we must get off of Middle Eastern fuels, and switch to our own, nationally generated energy. Click to expand... I think the two biggest produces of oil in the world are the USA and Russia. As far as I know, Saudi Arabia comes in at third place. Russia also supplies gas to Europe. China is the biggest producer of coal by a long shot. The three greatest countries for CO2 emissions, are China, the USA, and India. 1 Show all Lanolin Well-known member Dec 1, 2022 #153 Dec 15, 2018 19,489 6,337 113 Dec 1, 2022 #153 White australia policy was pretty awful for the aborigines and after the treaty of waitiangi nz maori suffered from land wars, yes. There was never really a time after european contact that was a good time for both cultures. Maybe in the window of the gospel but that didnt last too long before it became corrupted. also slavery...blackbirding, indentured service etc. in terms of climate the Tuvaluans, Niueans and Cook Islanders are struggling and most of them have left their islands to live in nz ...there are more of them in Auckland than the islands, because nz has more land, and also because climate change or rising sea levels means they wont have much land left.... Lanolin Well-known member Dec 1, 2022 #154 Dec 15, 2018 19,489 6,337 113 Dec 1, 2022 #154 its not carbon emissions that the problem - its actually pollution and contaminants covid was worse in china because the air is so polluted with dust particles not carbon dioxide , people suffered breathing /respirtatory issues and the virus was worse there because there was already so much in the air it wasnt clean. plastic particles are also a problem in the sea as it chokes the marine life. Microplastics especially when they are swallowed. Lanolin Well-known member Dec 1, 2022 #155 Dec 15, 2018 19,489 6,337 113 Dec 1, 2022 #155 overcrowding does cause problems when the land cannot cope with so many people esp with inadequate infrastructure and ways to deal with human waste ie, sewage systems. Also roads and stormwater runoff contribute to pollution in the sea and synthetic fertiliser runoff in rivers. Christians ought to look more into ecosystems to find out how Gods creation works the way He intended it to work before the fall. Lanolin Well-known member Dec 1, 2022 #156 Dec 15, 2018 19,489 6,337 113 Dec 1, 2022 #156 Isnt there a song that goes... If my people who are known by my name, humble themselves and pray, and search for me and turn from their evil ways, then I will hear from heaven and I will forgive their sin and heal their land. Lanolin Well-known member Dec 1, 2022 #157 Dec 15, 2018 19,489 6,337 113 Dec 1, 2022 #157 Israel is intent on making the desert bloom, with irrigation and permaculture practice you can do that but its not so good to drain wetlands..wildlife need wetlands as a filter. California was able to be so successful because of sunny climate and good land however the cities need to steal their water from other places. Also LA suffers from smog P persistent Well-known member Dec 1, 2022 #158 Sep 11, 2022 2,303 577 113 70 Chicago Dec 1, 2022 #158 Lanolin said: Israel is intent on making the desert bloom, with irrigation and permaculture practice you can do that but its not so good to drain wetlands..wildlife need wetlands as a filter. California was able to be so successful because of sunny climate and good land however the cities need to steal their water from other places. Also LA suffers from smog Click to expand... California cleaned up a lot of smog by introducing catalytic converters. Fresh water resources are problem almost everywhere. You apparently do 'some' following of environmental conditions. So what was going on in Libya, and particularly while Muammar Gaddafi was in control. I saw something about a canal works. This may have been a source of conflict. Also, the Sahel region of the Sahara was proposed to plant vegetation by Japan and that didn't go into effect. Was there any potential collusion with foreign countries contrary to US policy involved. Possibly there is now some others interested in Sahel revegetation. Possibly Muslim dominated? JohnDB Well-known member Dec 1, 2022 #159 Jan 16, 2021 3,725 1,640 113 Dec 1, 2022 #159 Climate change is just a political marketing ploy. What it has to do with is world energy reserves. They are finite...not infinite. Quatar used to have lots of oil and natural gas....lots of shopping malls and luxury hotels....now they have depleted the resources and have empty, abandoned malls and sand. The USA consumes ¼ of the energy but has over 70% of the world economy. However, we do have oil and natural gas....but it's needing to be preserved while exploiting other country's energy reserves. Because one day there will be a tipping point of the finite energy reserves in the ground. We need CHEAP fuel...not just fuel period....and there's a difference. We can make diesel out of many things...but inexpensive diesel is not just made from anything. It's requiring drilling in offshore locations and other more expensive locations to provide petroleum products to the world market. If the USA preserves their resources while using them as leverage to control costs of other natio… truncated (2,175 more characters in archive)