The Indochina Rock Ape or Wildman

  On 6/22/2020 at 12:38 PM, jethrofloyd said:

A possible explanation could be a  mysterious Indonesian 'cryptid' Orang Pendek.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orang_Pendek

It's very hard to say, but I did include links in the OP for the Orang Pendek.

Peace

@Piney I have a favor to ask, you have access to the academic community, because of your time working at the Smithsonian  could you contact some of the people you know and get any information they may have on this subject.

Thanks Bro

  On 6/22/2020 at 8:33 AM, Buzz_Light_Year said:

I joined the Marines in 75 and I never heard any stories of rock apes by the Marines that served in combat over there. But I'm sure there would've been a "Yeah OK" stigma attached to anyone that would've shared their story.

I think you right buzz, because that is exactly how we act as humans when we are told about something like this. If you didn't watch the video, please do so, it's really pretty good.

Peace

  On 6/22/2020 at 3:32 PM, Manwon Lender said:

@Piney I have a favor to ask, you have access to the academic community, because of your time working at the Smithsonian  could you contact some of the people you know and get any information they may have on this subject.

Thanks Bro

Nothing. Just N.A. Legends. 

I hunted the Eastern Bigfoot for 35 years and the Indians thought I was being sacrilegious and the Whites thought I was nuts. 

If Mike Argano from the BFRO is still around he probably could help. He's their most honest member and a good all around dude. 

  On 6/22/2020 at 3:20 PM, Manwon Lender said:

 Homo Floresiensis, is a possible choice but accord to the fossil record for Flores, Indonesia  the remains that were found on the Island were first thought to be around 12,000 years old, however, more recent testing have push that date back to around 50,000 years old. But while they died out on the Island, it doesnt mean they also died out on the main land in extremely remote areas like the Central Highlands of Vietnam or even Cambodia

Peace Bro

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Then there was the Filipino version.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_luzonensis

So they could of survived on the mainland. 

My father and three uncles never mentioned anything about Rock Apes during their respective tours. War and human behavior were the only mysterious and scary things they saw there.

  On 6/22/2020 at 3:44 PM, Piney said:

Nothing. Just N.A. Legends. 

I hunted the Eastern Bigfoot for 35 years and the Indians thought I was being sacrilegious and the Whites thought I was nuts. 

If Mike Argano from the BFRO is still around he probably could help. He's their most honest member and a good all around dude. 

 

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Anything you could do would be great, the difference for me between Bigfoot and this is the location. The jungles in that area even today are hardly ever traveled except by some indigenous people, and the area is still mostly uncharted. Then when you the add the fact that all the right ingredients  are present such, as populations of existing great apes, and a large fossil record of great apes if there were a place where something like this could exist this would be one of places.

Peace

  On 6/22/2020 at 3:47 PM, Piney said:

Then there was the Filipino version.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_luzonensis

So they could of survived on the mainland. 

Thanks Piney, I will read this in more depth as I get time, please add anything else you can think of.

Peace

Here is an account by a Marine who saw first these creatures first hand, and along with his platoon  actually shot some of them, and then were attacked by a group of Adults.

https://www.mysoutex.com/refugio_county_press/news/features/marine-says-vietnam-was-like-no-other-place/article_3e202d8a-5de4-11e7-9fc8-532d34aeb212.html

Peace

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Here is a great  document that go's into this subject, it worth reading, but I don't know who publish it.

https://cloudflare-ipfs.com/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Batutut.html

Peace

  On 6/22/2020 at 3:36 PM, Manwon Lender said:

I think you right buzz, because that is exactly how we act as humans when we are told about something like this. If you didn't watch the video, please do so, it's really pretty good.

Peace

Yeah I'd watched the video some time back as I'm a Mark Felton fan. His coverage of WWII is pretty good.

  On 6/22/2020 at 4:29 PM, Buzz_Light_Year said:

Yeah I'd watched the video some time back as I'm a Mark Felton fan. His coverage of WWII is pretty good.

Yea I agree it's really good, he seems like a straight forward no BS kind of guy. What did you think of the video?

Peace 

  On 6/22/2020 at 8:33 AM, Buzz_Light_Year said:

I joined the Marines in 75 and I never heard any stories of rock apes by the Marines that served in combat over there. But I'm sure there would've been a "Yeah OK" stigma attached to anyone that would've shared their story.

I joined the Army in 1979, you must be pretty hardcore, the Marines are an tough group of guys, how long did you serve?

I am glad I missed Vietnam, our Military was treated like crap when they came home, and that war really sucked. I don't even know why we were there, but it certainly wasn't to win, because if that was the objective we could have done it. Instead it turned out to be a Political Foot Ball game that cost the lives of so many good men, for nothing, but I suppose all wars are like that in a way, but Vietnam just seemed a lot worst than any conflicts I served in. So you joined the year that Saigon fell, well Buzz thanks for your service I hope you can let my past actions be water under the bridge, because I am sorry for how I acted toward you, it wasn't right, it wasn't right at all.

Peace

Here is some information of fossil evidence  form indoasia, it a good article on fossil remains of a creature similar Homoerectus.

https://cloudflare-ipfs.com/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Meganthropus.html 

Peace

  On 6/22/2020 at 3:08 PM, Manwon Lender said:

It's hard to say, but that could be possible, but the descriptions form hundreds of people don't really fit with that. If you didn't watch the video, please watch it.

I did.  Yeah, I know  the description does not fit too well with sapiens that is true.  As I said, I was asking possibilities with no real basis of knowledge. I don't think that any primate, including  gibbons, orangutans and chimpanzees have tails either, so  maybe parts of the description are fluid. Floresiensis, or an unknown species of great ape or even of  the Homo genus might be roaming around there, but it makes it so easy if it is sapiens. 

Thanks for bring it to the forum.  

Here is a very good article on the subject of the Rock Ape or the Forest people, it has a number of key witness accounts and it give more information on the theory of hat these creatures could be. It seems that there is a lot of information on this subject if you look for it, surprised I didn't think of this sooner, but that is how mind works, memories just pop up at unexpected times.

https://exemplore.com/cryptids/Wartime-Mystery-The-Rock-Apes-of-Vietnam 

here is another link

https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/u-s-troops-saw-bigfoot-vietnam

Peace

  On 6/22/2020 at 5:27 PM, Tatetopa said:

I did.  Yeah, I know  the description does not fit too well with sapiens that is true.  As I said, I was asking possibilities with no real basis of knowledge. I don't think that any primate, including  gibbons, orangutans and chimpanzees have tails either, so  maybe parts of the description are fluid. Floresiensis, or an unknown species of great ape or even of  the Homo genus might be roaming around there, but it makes it so easy if it is sapiens. 

Thanks for bring it to the forum.  

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I have added a number of interesting articles about this creature, there is an article below your post with a number of eye witness account and theories, if your board take a look at it, it's pretty interesting. Thanks for your post, I appreciate  the support, I am doing this because I am tired of the political threads. They go no where and only lead to foolish arguments which I have been to often responsible for, so I am going to try posting things that I enjoy, and have always been interested in. There are a lot of subjects like this that can be researched, and I am going to try and stick to doing this, but who knows I may need some excitement, if I do I may post something in the Political threads!!!

Peace

There was some really good pot back in VietNam.  Yeah good times.  

I always thought that the rock apes seen by troops in Vietnam could be a type of Bili ape.  Which is a type of six foot chimpanzee that walks bipedal, eats meat and are almost like a combo of ape and chimp.  They nest on the floor like apes too.  And they were only discovered in africa in the nineties, Who is to to say they aren’t any in Vietnam that know one knows about?

A chimpanzee is an "ape".

Isolated sub-species of orangutan? I think they could exist, there's still thousands of undiscovered species on earth. 

This is a part of a story i enjoy the Minnesota iceman, ( threads on here ) one of many of the back stories was that it was a killed rock ape,

This was intriguing but there is less to support rock apes than there is for bigfoot.

The anatomy of the Minnesota ice man wasnt consistant with evolution of any great ape, likely hoax.

Id say they exist - not hard to believe there are small bands of modern humans that don't want to be part of society. Doesn't mean they are a new undiscovered species though. Just modern humans gone wild.