The 432hz conspiracy theory

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I know there is a conspiracy theory thread, but this was so hilarious I thought it deserved its own.

According to this writer:


Okay so because the Schumann resonance is roughly 8 hz, when you multiply it by 54 you get 432hz, which is slightly lower than the widely adopted standard, A440. HZ just means cycles per second, measuring sound waves and electricomagnetic waves are completely different things. Lots of things are measured in hz that are completely unrelated to each other. Not like logic matters so this guy... Continuing where we left off.

This frequency, which is at the top end of the Theta range and at the start of the Alpha range, makes us feel very relaxed but conscious and open to intuitive learning. Listening to a concentrated recording of music at this frequency, like a binaural beats track, will synchronize (entrain) the brain to this state and induce the aforementioned effects.

Again, electrical activity in the is brain measured in Hz, which means cycles per second. Just because they're both measured is hz doesn't mean they're inherently related. The correlation between certain brain waves and the frequency of a slightly flat A note doesn't mean that they will have some magical effects on our personality. If you want to "synchronize" your brain, it would actually be better just to listen to music since listening to music engages more parts of your brain than just a sine wave, but if you enjoy listening to a 432hz sine wave, that's fine.

but it gets better.

Think for a moment about all the frequencies that travel through your brain in a given day: cell phones, Wi-Fi, radio and microwaves.

All these exist at different frequencies and pull our brain from one frequency to the next.

No they don't. In extreme causes, giant electromaginets can be used to effect parts of the brain and we can study the effects, but the various kinds of EM/Radio/Microwave radiation that permeates our lives passes though the body without really interacting with it at all. The kinds of radiation that comes from uranium and cell phones aren't even comparable.

that's not even mentioning the fact that they don't have a single citation for any of the claims they make.

According to music theory, A=432 Hz is mathematically consistent with the universe.

No. Just no.


okay, even though they don't cite their claim (like anything else), I'll give it to them. Even at that, just because certain ancient cultures had a preference for a slightly lower pitch for their instruments, doesn't even come close to proving their point.

The mathematical theory behind 432 Hz and its endorsement by famous musicians cannot be doubted, neither can the fact that the Earth is tuned at this frequency.

I thought you said it was tuned to 8hz? Just because 8 is a factor of 432 doesn't make them the same number :lol:

but it gets even better.


I don't even... At this point even this writer adds the caveat "While this is certainly an interesting theory, there is no evidence to support this".

finally
It is no surprise that when listening to the same music tuned at the two different frequencies (432 Hz and 440 Hz), most people say they feel a sense of relaxation after having listening to the 432 Hz version.

Its possible that 432hz might feel more "natural" to the human ear because of its lightly lower pitch, the lower pitch might give a more relaxed feeling than standard 440. However one would have to be listening to most music at 440, for there to even be a contrast with 432. So you could also say that if the standard pitch was 432, we could now be talking about the 424hz conspiracy theory. Since to people accustomed to 432 would find the slightly lower 424 to feel more relaxed.

https://www.binauralbeatsmeditation.com/432-hz-truth-behind-natures-frequency/
 

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If any bands decide to tune to A=432 Hz, more power to them. Or A= 415.3 Hz, or whatever, I don't care.

For me personally, I think it's rife with pseudoscience and flawed logic, but, at the end of the day, it either sounds good or not.

I'm almost certain we already had a thread about this.

EDIT: There were a bunch:

http://www.sevenstring.org/threads/432-hz.57796/
http://www.sevenstring.org/threads/444hz-tuning-528hz.324606/
http://www.sevenstring.org/threads/the-432-hz-vs-440-hz-music-frequency-thread.274605/
http://www.sevenstring.org/threads/432-hz-god-note.271023/
http://www.sevenstring.org/threads/...imposition-of-standard-tuning-a-440hz.195340/

etc.
 

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what if I just define a new unit where 440 is some multiple of the schumann resonance in that other unit? is it magical then?
 

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Maybe we should define a new unit for frequency: The Schmertz [Sz] as the frequency at which 432 Hz threads occur on the forum. Then we should tune the lowest tone to 432 Schmertz.
Lol.

The point I was getting at though is that this argument boils down to a sort of human semantics argument. This 432 coincidence thing only really exists because of how we think about hertz and waves and things of that nature. Sure, hertz are a pretty natural way of measuring it, but a man-made way nonetheless, no?
 

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Yeah, that 432hz or 424hz stuff is total horse puckey. Just pseudospiritual nonsense so enlightened individuals can gloat about how much more connected to the universe they are compared to everyone else. But, even worse, it all just sounds out of tune and bad.
 

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metalheads have been downtuning for ages lol, old news
 

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Lol.

The point I was getting at though is that this argument boils down to a sort of human semantics argument. This 432 coincidence thing only really exists because of how we think about hertz and waves and things of that nature. Sure, hertz are a pretty natural way of measuring it, but a man-made way nonetheless, no?

Dude you totally only think that way because the lizard men overlords told you to.
 

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I cackle with glee every time I see a 432Hz thread, because it's just so entertaining to read.
 

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Adam Neely has the perfect video shutting down this crap haha

Nothing wrong with using any tuning system but all the pseudoscience behind 432hz shows a complete lack of understanding of sound, music, and logic pretty much haha
 

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I love Adam Neely's channel, especially that video.

As a side note, I think I might work out a single where I tune A=0 Hz and just apply DC voltage to my pickups/a speaker/whatever. I don't expect it to be audible, but it'll be fun, at least.
 
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